Thanks for the warm welcome and time to answer.
We live in Las Vegas.
We are having discussions with kids on both impact of the environment, and not drawing attention to ourselves. There are several boxes in casinos which will be an additional problem with kids. Kids are allowed to walk through- to movie theaters, restaurants, exhibits etc- but not loiter. So that is an additional challenge. We are brainstorming on ways to get a large group in without drawing attention to ourselves. Maybe in small groups- Maybe have a scout go first. We are going to leave those ones for later.
Regarding the Las Vegas Zoo- it really is quite shameful for the size of our city. We have never been there when there have been more than 8 other patrons. It is small, and they have cages rather than habitats. Lots of good hiding places- and most maintenance is done by volunteers.
I want to get feedback on one of the suggestions by the group when we were talking about "series" stamps. We were thinking of placing 4 in a wetlands park/bird sanctuary. The discussion was if we could have one large stamp (like 4inches square) of a bird- then cut that stamp into 4 one inch squares that are hidden in different letterboxes in the same park. So if someone were to find all 4, they could make a larger picture in their journal. (Does this make sense? For example: the entire image would be of a bird, but each piece would have a different area; like the head, wing, feet etc. ) I think if we included an instruction sheet saying the completed image will be so big, and this stamp goes in the bottom right corner...... Hopefully, that way the finder would start stamping in an area of their journal that would fit.
Geesh- I am getting long winded- I have a few more ideas but will wait until I get some experience.
Zoe-Anne P0F0X0 ;-)
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Thanks and one more Q
11 messages in this thread |
Started on 2004-02-25
Thanks and one more Q
From: Zoe-Anne (gronilot@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2004-02-25 17:14:00 UTC-08:00
Re: [LbNA] Thanks and one more Q
From: (HANNAHKAT@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-02-26 09:56:58 UTC-05:00
Oooh!
I love series like that (multiple stamps to make one image). We have a number
of them here in New England.
CSCM and I placed a series like that called the Rhode Island Compass mystery.
Check out the clues. We made sure to have a disclaimer about leaving enough
space to stamp all the stamps. We also made sure we stamped the piece of the
picture in the "right place" in the logbook (eg. a blank square in the shape of
the final picture with the box's stamp stamped into the correct spot) so that
people would be able to see what the final position of the stamp should be
when the picture was complete. I'm not sure I described that well.
-Kim (Rustypuff)
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I love series like that (multiple stamps to make one image). We have a number
of them here in New England.
CSCM and I placed a series like that called the Rhode Island Compass mystery.
Check out the clues. We made sure to have a disclaimer about leaving enough
space to stamp all the stamps. We also made sure we stamped the piece of the
picture in the "right place" in the logbook (eg. a blank square in the shape of
the final picture with the box's stamp stamped into the correct spot) so that
people would be able to see what the final position of the stamp should be
when the picture was complete. I'm not sure I described that well.
-Kim (Rustypuff)
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Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2004-02-26 16:27:50 UTC
> Thanks for the warm welcome and time to answer.
> We live in Las Vegas.
>
> We are having discussions with kids on both impact of the
environment, and not drawing attention to ourselves.
Here is one that will not be a problem if you mob it. Go to Arizona
map and locate "Shotgun Shorty". This will require about a 1 hour
drive to the Virgin River just north of Mesquite. You can bring as
many folks to this letterbox as you want and you will not disturb
the environment. You won't need to be that stealthy and my guess is
that there is ample room in the log book, in fact you may be the
first to stamp in. On the way to or from there are some others in
the Valley of Fire.
Don
Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2004-02-26 16:28:14 UTC
> Thanks for the warm welcome and time to answer.
> We live in Las Vegas.
>
> We are having discussions with kids on both impact of the
environment, and not drawing attention to ourselves.
Here is one that will not be a problem if you mob it. Go to Arizona
map and locate "Shotgun Shorty". This will require about a 1 hour
drive to the Virgin River just north of Mesquite. You can bring as
many folks to this letterbox as you want and you will not disturb
the environment. You won't need to be that stealthy and my guess is
that there is ample room in the log book, in fact you may be the
first to stamp in. On the way to or from there are some others in
the Valley of Fire.
Don
Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) |
Date: 2004-02-26 16:38:41 UTC
> We live in Las Vegas.
I'd just like to point out one of my very neglected boxes not far
from Las Vegas. I think a lot of people overlook the box, because
it's technically in Arizona, just over the Hoover Dam, but the
closest major city is actually Las Vegas, and is closer to Las Vegas
than even my relatively well-visited Petroglyph Series.
So be if you ever find yourself heading out in that direction (or
even towards the California border, which isn't very far away
either), be sure to check out those border states!
Of course, that series I hid near Hoover Dam is at a popular hot
string where lots of naked people tend to run around, so you might
not want to bring children. ;o)
-- Ryan
I'd just like to point out one of my very neglected boxes not far
from Las Vegas. I think a lot of people overlook the box, because
it's technically in Arizona, just over the Hoover Dam, but the
closest major city is actually Las Vegas, and is closer to Las Vegas
than even my relatively well-visited Petroglyph Series.
So be if you ever find yourself heading out in that direction (or
even towards the California border, which isn't very far away
either), be sure to check out those border states!
Of course, that series I hid near Hoover Dam is at a popular hot
string where lots of naked people tend to run around, so you might
not want to bring children. ;o)
-- Ryan
Re: [LbNA] Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: Zoe-Anne (gronilot@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2004-02-26 08:46:05 UTC-08:00
Oh, that may be a fun day trip. We will need to do it soon before the weather gets too hot. Thanks for the idea- I wouldn't have thought of searching the nearby states for a while yet- but that trip seems do-able.
Thanks!
Zoe-Anne
----- Original Message -----
From: gwendontoo
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Thanks and one more Q
> Thanks for the warm welcome and time to answer.
> We live in Las Vegas.
>
> We are having discussions with kids on both impact of the
environment, and not drawing attention to ourselves.
Here is one that will not be a problem if you mob it. Go to Arizona
map and locate "Shotgun Shorty". This will require about a 1 hour
drive to the Virgin River just north of Mesquite. You can bring as
many folks to this letterbox as you want and you will not disturb
the environment. You won't need to be that stealthy and my guess is
that there is ample room in the log book, in fact you may be the
first to stamp in. On the way to or from there are some others in
the Valley of Fire.
Don
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Thanks!
Zoe-Anne
----- Original Message -----
From: gwendontoo
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Thanks and one more Q
> Thanks for the warm welcome and time to answer.
> We live in Las Vegas.
>
> We are having discussions with kids on both impact of the
environment, and not drawing attention to ourselves.
Here is one that will not be a problem if you mob it. Go to Arizona
map and locate "Shotgun Shorty". This will require about a 1 hour
drive to the Virgin River just north of Mesquite. You can bring as
many folks to this letterbox as you want and you will not disturb
the environment. You won't need to be that stealthy and my guess is
that there is ample room in the log book, in fact you may be the
first to stamp in. On the way to or from there are some others in
the Valley of Fire.
Don
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: Zoe-Anne (gronilot@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2004-02-26 08:48:54 UTC-08:00
LOL- they may just fit right in.... I have trouble keeping mine clothed half the time. Will the image on the stamp make me blush? ;-)
With all the homeland security around Hoover Dam nowadays I wonder if this will make searching "suspicious".
Of course, that series I hid near Hoover Dam is at a popular hot
string where lots of naked people tend to run around, so you might
not want to bring children. ;o)
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With all the homeland security around Hoover Dam nowadays I wonder if this will make searching "suspicious".
Of course, that series I hid near Hoover Dam is at a popular hot
string where lots of naked people tend to run around, so you might
not want to bring children. ;o)
-- Ryan
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[LbNA] Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) |
Date: 2004-02-27 00:55:49 UTC
> LOL- they may just fit right in.... I have trouble keeping mine
> clothed half the time. Will the image on the stamp make me
> blush? ;-)
It might. ;o)
> With all the homeland security around Hoover Dam nowadays I wonder
> if this will make searching "suspicious".
The hot springs are about four miles downstream of Hoover Dam and
several miles from the nearest road, so I don't think they watch
people too closely there. There is a security checkpoint you have to
cross to drive over Hoover Dam, but they've just waved me through
without so much as asking a question. (I haven't passed a security
checkpoint on my return drive, although I'm not sure if that's
because there isn't one or if the checkpoint for cars coming from
Arizona is further down the road than the trailhead.)
-- Ryan
> clothed half the time. Will the image on the stamp make me
> blush? ;-)
It might. ;o)
> With all the homeland security around Hoover Dam nowadays I wonder
> if this will make searching "suspicious".
The hot springs are about four miles downstream of Hoover Dam and
several miles from the nearest road, so I don't think they watch
people too closely there. There is a security checkpoint you have to
cross to drive over Hoover Dam, but they've just waved me through
without so much as asking a question. (I haven't passed a security
checkpoint on my return drive, although I'm not sure if that's
because there isn't one or if the checkpoint for cars coming from
Arizona is further down the road than the trailhead.)
-- Ryan
Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: lakesideyouth (bobbelehr@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-02-27 03:29:47 UTC
I've come across a few series where the stamps were part of a whole
picture. Fortunately, most times I was able to find each stamp to
make the picture. Once I was not able to do that. This is a small
drawback to these kinds of series. If a box is missing or a person
can not find the box then the picture is incomplete. I don't want to
discourage any creativity but I wanted you to know what could
possibly happen.
Bob2
> I want to get feedback on one of the suggestions by the group when
we were talking about "series" stamps. We were thinking of placing 4
in a wetlands park/bird sanctuary. The discussion was if we could
have one large stamp (like 4inches square) of a bird- then cut that
stamp into 4 one inch squares that are hidden in different
letterboxes in the same park. So if someone were to find all 4, they
could make a larger picture in their journal. (Does this make
sense? For example: the entire image would be of a bird, but each
piece would have a different area; like the head, wing, feet etc. )
I think if we included an instruction sheet saying the completed
image will be so big, and this stamp goes in the bottom right
corner...... Hopefully, that way the finder would start stamping in
an area of their journal that would fit.
picture. Fortunately, most times I was able to find each stamp to
make the picture. Once I was not able to do that. This is a small
drawback to these kinds of series. If a box is missing or a person
can not find the box then the picture is incomplete. I don't want to
discourage any creativity but I wanted you to know what could
possibly happen.
Bob2
> I want to get feedback on one of the suggestions by the group when
we were talking about "series" stamps. We were thinking of placing 4
in a wetlands park/bird sanctuary. The discussion was if we could
have one large stamp (like 4inches square) of a bird- then cut that
stamp into 4 one inch squares that are hidden in different
letterboxes in the same park. So if someone were to find all 4, they
could make a larger picture in their journal. (Does this make
sense? For example: the entire image would be of a bird, but each
piece would have a different area; like the head, wing, feet etc. )
I think if we included an instruction sheet saying the completed
image will be so big, and this stamp goes in the bottom right
corner...... Hopefully, that way the finder would start stamping in
an area of their journal that would fit.
[LbNA] Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: minibullymom (bedotcalm@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-02-27 16:59:22 UTC
There is a security checkpoint coming from the Arizona side but it is
a ways down the road from the dam. We came through it this past
summer...if memory serves me right it is like 5 or miles "south" of
the dam itself.
I'm now kicking myself for not getting into letterboxing when I first
heard about it because my dad and I could of had a blast hunting down
local boxes on our whirlwind trip to Missouri and Arizona this year.
We drove from Washington State to St.Louis, Missouri to Yuma, Arizona
to LasVegas and Reno, Nevada and then home to Washington in 10 days!
We were in St.Louis, Yuma and Reno for two days and had plenty of
boxing ops. just pass us by..but then we were literally "clueless".
Are there boxes planted at Mt.Rushmore, St.Louis Peace Arch,Lake
Havasu or Virginia City?? Those were the "tourist traps" we did stop
at...we said to heck with "Wall Drug", 1880 Town and the Corn Palace,
and the Meramac Caverns (dad grew up playing in them). Hmm...I wonder
if anyone has considered a Route 66 series!! That would be cool!
(I haven't passed a security
> checkpoint on my return drive, although I'm not sure if that's
> because there isn't one or if the checkpoint for cars coming from
> Arizona is further down the road than the trailhead.)
>
a ways down the road from the dam. We came through it this past
summer...if memory serves me right it is like 5 or miles "south" of
the dam itself.
I'm now kicking myself for not getting into letterboxing when I first
heard about it because my dad and I could of had a blast hunting down
local boxes on our whirlwind trip to Missouri and Arizona this year.
We drove from Washington State to St.Louis, Missouri to Yuma, Arizona
to LasVegas and Reno, Nevada and then home to Washington in 10 days!
We were in St.Louis, Yuma and Reno for two days and had plenty of
boxing ops. just pass us by..but then we were literally "clueless".
Are there boxes planted at Mt.Rushmore, St.Louis Peace Arch,Lake
Havasu or Virginia City?? Those were the "tourist traps" we did stop
at...we said to heck with "Wall Drug", 1880 Town and the Corn Palace,
and the Meramac Caverns (dad grew up playing in them). Hmm...I wonder
if anyone has considered a Route 66 series!! That would be cool!
(I haven't passed a security
> checkpoint on my return drive, although I'm not sure if that's
> because there isn't one or if the checkpoint for cars coming from
> Arizona is further down the road than the trailhead.)
>
[LbNA] Re: Thanks and one more Q
From: Ryan Day (rwday@kcc.usda.gov) |
Date: 2004-02-27 12:14:13 UTC-06:00
There is a Route 66 series that started recently. The first one was in SE Kansas, I believe...
>>> bedotcalm@yahoo.com 02/27/04 10:59AM >>>
There is a security checkpoint coming from the Arizona side but it is
a ways down the road from the dam. We came through it this past
summer...if memory serves me right it is like 5 or miles "south" of
the dam itself.
I'm now kicking myself for not getting into letterboxing when I first
heard about it because my dad and I could of had a blast hunting down
local boxes on our whirlwind trip to Missouri and Arizona this year.
We drove from Washington State to St.Louis, Missouri to Yuma, Arizona
to LasVegas and Reno, Nevada and then home to Washington in 10 days!
We were in St.Louis, Yuma and Reno for two days and had plenty of
boxing ops. just pass us by..but then we were literally "clueless".
Are there boxes planted at Mt.Rushmore, St.Louis Peace Arch,Lake
Havasu or Virginia City?? Those were the "tourist traps" we did stop
at...we said to heck with "Wall Drug", 1880 Town and the Corn Palace,
and the Meramac Caverns (dad grew up playing in them). Hmm...I wonder
if anyone has considered a Route 66 series!! That would be cool!
(I haven't passed a security
> checkpoint on my return drive, although I'm not sure if that's
> because there isn't one or if the checkpoint for cars coming from
> Arizona is further down the road than the trailhead.)
>
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>>> bedotcalm@yahoo.com 02/27/04 10:59AM >>>
There is a security checkpoint coming from the Arizona side but it is
a ways down the road from the dam. We came through it this past
summer...if memory serves me right it is like 5 or miles "south" of
the dam itself.
I'm now kicking myself for not getting into letterboxing when I first
heard about it because my dad and I could of had a blast hunting down
local boxes on our whirlwind trip to Missouri and Arizona this year.
We drove from Washington State to St.Louis, Missouri to Yuma, Arizona
to LasVegas and Reno, Nevada and then home to Washington in 10 days!
We were in St.Louis, Yuma and Reno for two days and had plenty of
boxing ops. just pass us by..but then we were literally "clueless".
Are there boxes planted at Mt.Rushmore, St.Louis Peace Arch,Lake
Havasu or Virginia City?? Those were the "tourist traps" we did stop
at...we said to heck with "Wall Drug", 1880 Town and the Corn Palace,
and the Meramac Caverns (dad grew up playing in them). Hmm...I wonder
if anyone has considered a Route 66 series!! That would be cool!
(I haven't passed a security
> checkpoint on my return drive, although I'm not sure if that's
> because there isn't one or if the checkpoint for cars coming from
> Arizona is further down the road than the trailhead.)
>
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